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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jun 18, 2011 8:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: June '83 Pics (and Many More Years, Too)

You know what's funny? It looks familiar to me, too, although at the same time, I remember the crowd as being quite a bit grungier -- and in the late 70s, at least in urban settings, rather rougher and more biker-ish. I guess it's all what or who you focus on and what stands out, both at the time and in memory.

When you see pictures of "protests in the 60s," for instance, it's most definitely NOT a whole lot of extras in fringe jackets, waist-length hair and headbands from a movie about the '60s. A smattering of long hair, a lot of young semi-scruffies who could probably clean up nicely, but generally more similar to late 70s Bob than Pigpen.

Here's the crowd at Woodstock; it doesn't, in a lot of ways, look all that different from the ones in the show pics:

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/08/07/opinion/07crowd.480.jpg


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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jun 18, 2011 10:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: June '83 Pics (and Many More Years, Too)

Yeah, probably the majority of the crowd at Woodstock was not particularly hippy. Hippies became the iconic image because they stand out more colorfully. Woodstock was attended by a lot of very ordinary young people!

I had a Grateful Dead encounter in real life a couple of days ago. Was wearing a GD tee shirt and an ancient hippy came up to me in the grocery store and said, "Wow, man, your shirt, wow, Grateful Dead ..." and I said, "Yeah, wow, Grateful Dead" and we laughed, what a stereotype you are fella!! Maybe it was someone from the forum :)

The main differences in these pictures that I see from today are 1) 70's haircuts (which extended well into the 80's); 2) so many people smoking; and 3) hardly anyone is overweight; pre-high-fructose corn syrup era, I guess.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 18, 2011 12:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question for male Forumites

I think part of the diff's, in all these pics (great site, had seen that before, but not for a while...thx) is we're on the "wrong coast" in many of them.

By 68, most all in the Bay Area had long hair (it had taken a couple of yrs to get to that length of course). Don't get me wrong--you can still see shots with lots of short-haired guys, in SF in the late 60s. But, I dunno--something's diff between these two sides of the country in a number of respects I can't necessarily put my finger on (ahem, nor do I want to?).

But, it has me thinking--what was the longest length (hair only, pleeezz) and what age for you male Forumites? To make it simple, pony tail or no?

For me, pony tail, 75-77.

NOTE: Sorry, gals...everyone knows long hair is "in" when you're young, for all eras, exceptions--Twiggy--notwithstanding (right? tell me if I am wrong). I've talked to a handful of hair-dressers about this (ever notice in shows like "what not to wear", NO matter what a gal looks like, unless 18-24, long hair is always cut...oh, and yes, I only watched that show with my aging mother-in-law when she was on her way out and homebound; watched it ALL the time!) and they say that it is a universal of hair styling that only "young" gals should wear long hair, and as age rolls along, a face almost always is "improved" (don't shoot me, just passing along the dogma as told to me) by cropping the hair. Dunno if this is true, but one told me it's a body wt/proportion thingy.

Hmmm, this is probably why the guy that used to cut my hair said I was looking better and better as I became balder and balder (get it?). I don't even need to go to the guy now it's so short--talked himself right out of a job, along with my hairloss.

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Poster: boltman Date: Jun 19, 2011 4:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question for male Forumites

Day late, but dollar short...ponytail (midway down my back) and goatee (before they were popular) from 72 - 76.

Been thinking it would be nice to let the hair grow again...must be nostalgia!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 19, 2011 5:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question for male Forumites

Ha--had to reply about the goatee! Had one AFTER they were popular, and have had it almost ever since (ie, from early 90s thru today...

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Poster: boltman Date: Jun 19, 2011 5:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question for male Forumites

Never got rid of mine either...although it has gone through a color change...I prefer to call it silver, but it's really just white.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jun 18, 2011 8:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Women of a Certain Age

What are you trying to do, WT, get me started on a long rant?!? Geez, I HATE that "advice." Women look "better" with long hair as we get older ... uh huh, that translates into "salon owners get richer." Not much money in trimming once in a while. Whole lotta money in trying to find the "right style" that doesn't make a Woman of a Certain Age look like a gym teacher or a Republican lobbyist. Oh, sorry, that's the way we look best and "youngest," right? According to those same advice givers, who also run shows like What Not to Wear that would definitely replace all my wardrobe with, say, nylons and polyester. Blech.

I've had more or less the same hair style since the 70s, LOL. Cut it boyish-short once around 1986, and my mom thought it was "chic and sophisticated," and maybe it was ... but just didn't feel like me. My hair isn't super long now, but it's a few inches past my shoulders. Always wanted to be one of those neat old ladies with long white braids. Actually, always wanted my hair to look like Donna's ... and if people tell me to cut it because I'm "supposed" to, I can howl like her, too!

End rant.



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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 19, 2011 6:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Women of a Certain Age

So, I take it you and DD don't buy the theory, and again, to be clear, I don't endorse it myself as I think it depends to much on "local variables", but what I am getting at is have you encountered the "truism"?

IE, that it is what folks in "hair" believe to be true (only young thin gals can have long hair)...?

Not that I am considering busting into the biz or anything.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jun 19, 2011 7:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Women of a Certain Age

Oh sure, it's one of those "Dress for Success" type pseudo-rules. Though I've never heard the "thin" part. (Don't think anyone in the hair biz wants to tell women they're not, LOL. They talk about things like "heart-shaped" faces and "oval faces" and so on, whatever THAT means.) But obviously anyone in the business of selling haircuts is going to be in favor of ever-more haircuts, which equals short hair and A Style, preferably with many styling products included (and frequent trips back for an update), rather than just plain ol' long.

I suspect the myth (and I definitely think it's a myth) got its start when the hair salon biz started around the 1930s, when women with short hair DID seem younger cuz that was hip and fashionable, and long hair made folks think of Grandma with her bun. For decades, various versions of short hair was the youthful style, and stylists kept echoing "short hair makes you look younger." So it became an accepted rule, like "no white shoes after Labor Day." And as it suits the business purposes of those who sell haircuts and hair products, why not keep repeating it?

I also think it's partly how we process what we see. Our personal esthetic. To a lot of people, hair that has been cut, blow-dried, styled and gelled really DOES look nicest. It's their vision of the ideal. The 60s questioned that polished look, as it questioned many things. (Thank goodness!) But to many folks, a woman with primped hair, high heels, clothes from Saks Fifth Avenue in the "latest colors," etc really IS going to look "better" to them, which I guess means "prettier," which I guess means "younger."

It's like music. There's a whole business, I'm sure, of telling musicians how they will sound better if they just fake it up a bit. Or, rather, "polish." They "must" do this, they "must" do that. And to many folks, that honestly does sound better. But of course, that doesn't mean it IS better. Just more ... well, I could go on and on :-)

Now see what you did, WT? LOL. Hit the hair button, and women -- or some, anyway (raises hand) -- will definitely go off on a tear! What's next on your agenda? Asking us if stripes make women look thinner? (Or does the "truism" go the other way? Sorry, I forget.)


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Poster: Dancin'Deb Date: Jun 19, 2011 8:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Women of a Certain Age

well said, Althea...I just want to add that the truism also seems to say that short hair makes you look not only younger but thinner...another wonderful part of our culture (that only thin, young women are beautiful and, WT, able to wear long hair...though I know nothing about pin stripes ;)
Yes, WT, I encounter the truism constantly especially since I have long, not dyed hair...I go to the hairdresser on average once every 8 months or so (and only when I start to lose my peripheral vision due to my increasing hair :) I think they get all excited that they will surely make money off of me as I'm sure I look like I've come to my senses and am ready for the short hair and all the products that go along with that. Ha! They are always so disappointed.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jun 19, 2011 4:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Women of a Certain Age

I can attest that Deb's hair is beautiful and she shouldn't cut it :)

I wouldn't mind cutting mine very short, it drives me crazy, but every time I say that, my husband objects, so I guess he doesn't think I'd look better without it ...

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Poster: Dancin'Deb Date: Jun 19, 2011 5:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Women of a Certain Age

Thanks, Ring! I don't think you should cut your hair...I think it's quite beautiful as it is :)

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Poster: Dancin'Deb Date: Jun 18, 2011 9:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Women of a Certain Age

AMEN sister :) I refuse to buy into the theory that cutting my hair short will make me look younger. All it does is make women look like they are buying into the theory. I LOVE my long silver threads (as my kids so lovingly call my grey hair). My mom has been trying to get me to cut my hair for years now but the more she tries, the longer I let it grow. It's about half way down my back right now...and I have a lot of hair. Recently, I was at a family party and almost all of the women that were older than me (and a few my age) had short black hair. I don't think it made them look any younger than they were; they just looked like older women who cut their hair short and dyed it. I will be one of those old ladies with long white hair...key words being 'will be'...I'm not there yet :) I'm still a young lady with long, silver and black hair. Let it grow, ladies, let it grow!

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Jun 18, 2011 2:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question for male Forumites

No pony tail for me... but my hair reached shoulder-length in 73-74, end of college. Nowadays, it's irrelevant. I had one DH buddy from Chicago with ponytail about the same time, and I'd like to locate this long-lost friend, name of Ed Kehm, if anyone's seen or heard of him.

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Poster: bkidwell Date: Jun 18, 2011 3:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question for male Forumites

Since 1987, I have had a total of 3 haircuts, I think. The last one was probably five years ago. The beard gets shorn periodically, whenever I can no longer eat without undesired ingestion of keratin.

When I stopped cutting my hair, I was not inspired by the 1960s counterculture, but rather by Franz Liszt. Nowadays it's a tribute Richard Stallman as much as anything else.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Jun 18, 2011 1:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question for male Forumites

Since around 71'-72' at the age of 13 I have had long hair about 3/4 of the way down my back,as my forehead grows much larger I still retain the ponytail,not so much as a look or statement but the realization that at this point my options are very limited.

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Jun 18, 2011 3:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question for male Forumites

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i07WGcZTRlw

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Poster: user unknown Date: Jun 18, 2011 3:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question for male Forumites

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dyl0j3WU6Y

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Jun 18, 2011 4:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question for male Forumites

classic, loved that film when i 1st saw it

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Poster: user unknown Date: Jun 18, 2011 6:45pm
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just past my 60th I've discovered that hair really does "stop by itself"

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffLum Edwards Date: Jun 18, 2011 7:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question for male Forumites

Yeah, Its very true, My hair has been the same length since about 85-86. I lived by the only cut your hair if you are going to court rule. Havent had to deal twith that for a while.
(knock wood) ponytail always when outside the house.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 18, 2011 3:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question for male Forumites

Hi Arb.

Lots of Pink Floyd and some Led Zeppelin influences in their music. I kept waiting for them to drive that sucker, but they maintained the slow boil. Anyways, good song.

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Jun 18, 2011 4:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question for male Forumites

glad you liked micah, i actually just 'discovered' this band recently via the best live music blog on the net:

http://www.nyctaper.com/

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 18, 2011 1:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question for male Forumites

What about the latest hair craze for women, flattening their hair? Takes an hour to do. I'm sure the shelf life of their hair gets pressed a little as well. I don't like how it looks.

I could go on to analyze the NOTE section of your post, but I will hold to my promise. I'm sure Rob or SDH or someone ...

Twice w/ the long hair.

'86-'94 Halfway down to my butt. My hair is too fine for the usual p.t. holder (rips my hair out) and what self respecting man is going to wear a scrunchy? Hats, bandanna's, headbands, and the occasional hair interlacing. Of course, only why I was trying to get sweet w/ the girl who was doing the braiding! Great icebreaker.

'11 I don't know why. Pt. length, but I wear a rasta hat. I'll probably get it cut soon, but Mrs. micah likes it.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 18, 2011 4:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question for male Forumites

You were the only one that commented on the "note", but do make certain you understand I am only conveying what's been told to me...I have no such universal in my head (long when young, short as you age...for gals that is).

I think it's far too idiosyncratic to follow any such rule; the only reason I've become aware of it is that these hair folks have told me it "is" a truism...maybe some hair styling Forumite will jump in to tell me it's NOT a truism and I've been misled.

However, there is that show--the haircut person ALWAYS said "we're gonna have to chop!" (never "oh...you really need to grow your hair out!"...why isn't it 50/50 as to which is "best" for the gal in question?). Maybe it's just a job security issue?

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 18, 2011 5:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question for male Forumites

You make me laugh (in a good way).

If you had a choice, what would you have, the long or short of it?
(SDH, this is a hair on top of your head question. Oh dear. The hair above your neck, that can grow in length beneath your head. Oh, I give up. Have at it.)

I don't know about the ladies and length. Very personal I would assume. Mine own is a long hair, no dye.

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Poster: Jobygoob Date: Jun 20, 2011 8:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question for male Forumites

Here's a pic of me at Three Rivers Stadium in 1990. I'm the one with the big, dark hair about four rows from the front. It was cut about two years after that show but didn't get much longer, just wider.



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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jun 20, 2011 9:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question for male Forumites

Nice look. That's when your name was Joblessgoob, right? (Sorry, couldn't resist!)

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Poster: Jobygoob Date: Jun 20, 2011 10:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question for male Forumites

Ha believe it or not I was respectable enough looking when it was tied back in a ponytail to maintain in the gainful employ of convenience store graveyard shifts in a variety of establishments.

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Poster: Punster61 Date: Jun 18, 2011 6:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question for male Forumites

Longest hair (so far) is right now. Haven't had it cut since 1994. Don't intend to cut it in the near future either. I'm still here, been around the shows since SF in the 60s when I used to go AWOL from the military on weekends from Monterey and go to SF for shows in the park ... was SUPER short hair then! Now if they don't like the way I dress or length of my hair, or anything else ... sorry, but its too late to change now!!! At 63 yrs young I'll damn-sure do as I please!

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Jun 20, 2011 12:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question for male Forumites

...what was the longest length (hair only)..."

Do the annoying antannae that more and more frequently spring from my eyebrows, nostrils or ear canal count?

Seems to be the only place I'm NOT losing hair.

Never thought I'd see the day when I truly appreciate a quality nose hair trimmer.

I also have sported a goatee for some time. Had the beard for a few years, but it was hard to deal with in the AZ summer (facial hair + 110 degrees makes for alot of itching). Also now I've just about removed all of the remaining hair from my dome. Couldn't justify the time and expense of maintaining that which was falling out almost faster than I could cut it. Plus, again taking into consideration the heat out here, I find it infinitely more comfortable. And, perhaps most importantly, it is now much easier to mingle with the establishment (aka those who make it possible for me to pay my bills).

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 20, 2011 1:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question for male Forumites

Ha--I've come to similar conclusions on all these fronts as well...had a nice enough barber show me the ropes on how to do it all myself, so besides the almost self-trimming topside, I trim and buzz all the other places you mention myself as well. Saving the $20 once a month in addition to the time involved is an addt'l bonus.

You'll appreciate knowing that Ronco has re-issued the 2 and 1/2 horsepower, 2000 rpm, three person operated nose trimmer for Forumites of our age and hair growth patterns.

Thanks for the pic, Flow; can't believe I make so many grammatical errors--that develops along with the change in hair growth patterns I suppose. That model must be the newclear powered version that George Bush was telling me about.


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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Jun 20, 2011 1:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question for male Forumites

All I need is my handy-dandy Norelco recharable hair trimmer set to about a "3" and I'm good to go. Course the wife is none too fond of the hair left behind in the tub. She likes it even less when I say "Now you know how I feel".

Can't remember the last time I paid to have a hair cut.

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Poster: high flow Date: Jun 20, 2011 4:07pm
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I buzz my own as a well. I go for the #1(1/8") and I lay a couple of towels on the floor to collect the tufts of thick and lustrous hair which falls away. I roll the towels and shake them out on the grass. No muss, no fuss and I can avoid insulting my wife. You should try both.

Mrs Hollow? Is that you?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_jqfiBjVDXxk/TSXdfCWBuBI/AAAAAAAAAP4/XpFSVa2t9kM/s320/nosehair.jpg

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 21, 2011 6:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question for male Forumites

You guys cut your hair INSIDE? I live (SDH...are you kidding me?) in Arizona for crying out loud, and every few weeks you can find me buck naked outside shaving various body parts.

Drop by if you dare.

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Poster: high flow Date: Jun 21, 2011 11:31am
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What, no photo? I prefer to avoid sunburn on the whatnots.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 21, 2011 12:24pm
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Wife provides warning to all that happen to drop by: "in case you were considering going out back, DON'T. There's a beached whale floundering around by the pool; if you want, blindfold yourself and attempt to prod it back into the water, but be careful it doesn't displace the entire contents--water is costly" But, trust me--she loves me for the fact that most of this hair is blowing into the neighbor's yard rather than going down our sink, or wherever.

The kids always ask "is dad outside DOING anything I should know about?" That's what older dads are for, right? Embarrassing the beejeebers outta their kids...I relish my success in this respect.

Do you think anyone's getting anything out of all this attn to male grooming activities post 40?

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Poster: high flow Date: Jun 21, 2011 1:44pm
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"Do you think anyone's getting anything out of all this attn to male grooming activities post 40?"

Yes. Most of the guys are getting a laugh, while the ladies are likely getting the dry-heaves.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 21, 2011 2:47pm
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And just think, if only he'd take our advice, we could probably help Bobby clean up real good.

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Poster: high flow Date: Jun 22, 2011 11:09am
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That's a wrap! Nice work.

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Poster: high flow Date: Jun 20, 2011 1:40pm
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http://www.crossagrieng.ie/digga/auger01-large-image.jpg

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Jun 20, 2011 2:12pm
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No, that's what they bring out if the Metamucil doesn't do the trick.

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Poster: reviewr Date: Jun 18, 2011 6:44pm
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Never a ponytail and never facial hair. No ink or piercings either.

The longest my hair ever got was collar length. At that point it started to annoy me - gets in the face. Talking about my late teens here (about '85). In '87 I started working in the corporate world. It's been short ever since.

I never understood those people that are always pushing their hair back. It is clearly bothering them. Cut it already!

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Poster: clementinescaboose Date: Jun 19, 2011 9:20pm
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That's what me and my long-haired freaky people friends used to call the "shit" stage of growing out your hair; it's long enough to get in your way and annoy you, but too short to ponytail or do anything with. Best to just ride it out 'til you reach ponytail length. Yes, easier said than done; you have no idea how many times I wanted to cut it during that stage.

I started growing mine out about 6-7 years ago, now I have thick dreadlocks about 2/3 of the way down my back. I'm probably cutting it as soon as I'm done with grad school and have to face the "real" world...

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jun 20, 2011 2:53am
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LOL. My husband had great hair, almost to his waist. Then he finished grad school and had to evolve into Mr. Suit and Tie, so it all went at once. Our kid was pretty little, and he was in shock! (Where's Daddy's hair?!?) Hubby donated his nice thick ponytail to Locks of Love, which makes wigs for kids with cancer. Now he's talked about growing it back, but there's not much left on top to make a long crop anymore! Ah well.

Too bad that, outside of a few parts of the country (and a few professions, like academia or computers), you long-haired guys have to end up looking like Samson after the Corporate/Bureaucratic Delilah gets you :-) Sometimes I see pics of old friends after years and years of not seeing them, and dang, that can be a shock. (He was a skinny guy with long bushy hair! Who the heck is this middle-aged lawyer?!?)

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Poster: clementinescaboose Date: Jun 21, 2011 10:58am
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Haha, that is funny! I wish i could donate it, but I'm sure they won't want what inside these things. It can be quite a shock if that is all you have known of a person's look...my GF has only seen me with long hair, and she keeps saying "you're going to look SO WEIRD when you finally cut it!"

I definitely not looking forward to selling out, 'cause I know it will never look like this again. And male pattern baldness runs in my fam, so I'm sure I'd have your husband's problem if I tried haha.

It's sad the assumptions people make about you when you look like this, yet there are some surprisingly tolerant people out there too.

A funny story about that actually: when I was traveling out west a few years ago with my GF's fam we met all sorts of people. A nice older man was asking me about my hair, how long I had it, how I did it, etc. and I was surprised that he wasn't just giving me funny looks. Later in the trip, my GF overhears a middle aged lady say under her breath at me "die you fucking hippie!" LOL

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Poster: splue Date: Jun 21, 2011 4:26pm
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wow--that musta been an early palin sighting b4 she became a bigger nothing!!!!:D

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Poster: clementinescaboose Date: Jun 22, 2011 11:05am
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LMAO!

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Jun 18, 2011 3:01pm
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Only got a couple inches past collar length, circa summer '85. I started getting pretty thin on top in my late teens and always preferred buzz cuts and even the occasional shaved scalp (which wasn't as "cool" in the 80s as it is now- trust me). I did sport a Grizzly Adams beard off and on, regardless of hair length, during my years of going to shows '83-91. Combined with the fact that I almost never wore tie-dye to a show (solid color Dead tees only, thanks) and I definitely stood out a bit.

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Jun 18, 2011 3:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question for male Forumites

I hated tie-dye as well (and teddy bears, for god's sake!) - most guys in Detroit wouldn't be caught "dead" in that attire at a rock concert.

Another big difference at today's rock concerts - much more tattoo "art" and piercing. Thank you, I'll live without.